Back to Adobe® Flash™ Player
After 4 weeks using exclusively Gnash as flash player, I have switched back to Adobe® Flash™ Player.
Though I had found workarounds for major video sites (including Youtube and DailyMotion), I have had a lot of issues with musical websites, most of them being still designed in Flash™.
To use Adobe® Flash™ Player on my amd64 desktops, I have used Bart Marten’s workaround described in the Debian wiki. It works fine though the player randomly crashes on some websites, and the browser needs to be restarted so that it works again.
This 4-week experience was fine, but I am a little bit puzzled that there is still no usable free flash player. Hopefuly, things will improve over time… the sooner, the better!
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Do you know about the Lightspark project? It’s a modern open source flash player implementation, targeted at the newer flash files that gnash can’t handle. Currently is not yet a drop-in replacement for adobe player, but youtube for example is mostly supported in 0.4.2rc2
Look at about:config and the dom.ipc.plugins.enabled settings and see whether enabling dom.ipc.plugins.enabled (or creating one specifically for nspluginwrapper) makes the crashes less painful.
The workaround on the Debian Wiki works fine but most of the time in Iceweasel the flash plugin just don’t work. But, in Chrome there is no problem using flash and this is strange. Iceweasel is my primary browser and it’s kind of stupid that I have to turn on Chrome if I need to view some flash content. I hope this will be fixed so that I can view flash in Iceweasel and I don’t have to use another browser to do the job.
There doesn’t need to be an open version of the Adobe Flash player. With HTML5, and the video tag, Flash is a dying technology.
That’s what I thought, but there are still a lot of websites designed in Flash, especially in the music area (bands’ official websites, events websites etc.)
Surely it is, just it dies too slowly
I dont’ expect that it will die within even 1-2 years, and that’s too much to wait for HTML5-only sites and stop using major video sites, online games and so on, just because some day HTML5 can rule the world, even knowing that I wish that …
The only improvement I hope for in this area is the death of Flash. The whole concept of plugins in web pages, be it Flash or Java, is so 80s. Flash just does not fit in the Web. You can’t use the “Back” button of your browser, you have a completely different area of security (problems), you need to use authoring tools to produce the stuff, etc.
Flash videos aren’t a human right, get over it. Do something useful instead.
And stuff that proprietary player where the sun don’t shine.
some sites have a non flash version if they detect that you dont have it installed.
my method is to not install flash system wide, but to create a second firefox profile
firefox -ProfileManager
and flash into it
.mozilla/firefox-4.0/cwy8vu1q.flashfox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
then i can start it with
firefox –no-remote -P flashfox
i guess you could make a few profiles for non-flash, gnash and flash.
I have an amd64 system and a i686 one. I simply uninstalled Flash from the first one.
There is a smart way to use both Gnash and Adobe Flash Player on this page: http://guide.debianizzati.org/index.php/Visualizzare_filmati_YouTube_con_Gnash_e_GreaseMonkey
Sorry if it is in Italian. For short: the idea is to install Gnash and greasemonkey (xul-ext-greasemonkey), then preparing the script and installing it on Greasemonkey. After that you will use Gnash on Youtube and Adobe on the rest of the web.